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:iconponyoponyoske:
ponyoponyoske Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Your bottom is really beautiful...
Let me make areference.
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Sweet-karem Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2014  Student Digital Artist
LOVE the colors!! <3
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ToxiCake Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I absolutely LOVE the colors!!! <3
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:icongenetic-miles:
Genetic-Miles Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014
awesome
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R603 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Are you tring to make those strange people out there horny or something?
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:iconxxgodsgirl757xx:
xXGodsGirl757Xx Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
lol her butt xD
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:iconowl-queenxp:
Owl-QueenXP Featured By Owner May 19, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
so good 
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:iconnaseem-art12:
naseem-art12 Featured By Owner May 10, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
this is beautiful!!!
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:iconfierceaustindeadbolt:
FierceAustinDeadbolt Featured By Owner May 9, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
pretty and colorful
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:iconkittyponyartist:
KittyPonyArtist Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
i love this one Love Meow :3 La la la la 
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Pengytess Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014  Student General Artist
reminds me of my OC cobweb shes a bat well half pony bat
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:iconanimegirl164:
animegirl164 Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2014  Hobbyist
Cool I luv it!!!!
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:iconsubmerged08:
Submerged08 Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Omg I love her! ;0;
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:iconthepepperedcat:
ThePepperedCat Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Love it!!!
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:iconannaart32:
AnnaArt32 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2014
What app do u use 4 the art?
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:icondevinewolfspirit:
DevineWolfSpirit Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2014
Someone stole this artwork, along with your Valentine Pony and Winter Pony. Thought I should let you know.

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AlwaysMowing Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2014  Student General Artist
Kawiku ;w;
snowstar1220.deviantart.com/ar… someone stole ur artworks
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:iconzakosist:
zakosist Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014
Even cooler than that "traffic-dog"!Clap 
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:iconsexxyemo:
sexxyemo Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014
Sweet
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:iconkarmajinx:
KarmaJinx Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2014   General Artist
Wow that's so creative!
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:iconshyshe:
Shyshe Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
EPIC PICTURE OMG
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:icon77th-role-player:
77th-Role-Player Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014
I usually don't like darker characters but her colors appeal to me.
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:icononlybykaymichelle:
OnlyByKayMichelle Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
How do you get such amazing neon colors?! Love it!! Love 
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:icondarkangelfound:
DarkAngelFound Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Student Digital Artist
THIS. IS. GORGEOUS. SPAZ 

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:iconimperfectionality:
Imperfectionality Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Stunning!
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:icontimberslashwolf:
TimberSlashWolf Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Looks awesome!:D
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:iconspigos:
Spigos Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, it's so cool! 
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:icontimon-berkowitz:
Timon-Berkowitz Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014
Wow... what a scam.
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equinepalette Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
If you're referencing the controversy between hers and mine, I've actually spoken with Kawiku now and learned that everything was just a misunderstanding. She didn't copy or directly reference my piece. It's a little complicated, but as an artist, I understood what happened, and it's okay. Everything's been sorted out between us. It's all good :)
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Spottedsilver Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I'm glad everything is alright with you two~ :)
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Timon-Berkowitz Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014
No i wasnt,  what is seems to me is that an artists is selling the 'rights' to some little epheremal doodle, not a physical copy, to some prospective buyer for a rather shocking amount of money.  I have to ask, can not people generate their own character without having to rely on someone else to... even moreso, pay them to do it?  I think some unfortunate people are being milked of their income.  Now if it was a physical drawing that would make some sense, but this is not, and moreso, its something that can be very easily generated in digital painting.
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MirthSpindle Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Its a great way to make money off of people with mental issues, and too much money to throw around. ESPECIALLY with auctions. There is sure to be a person retarded enough to want to spend 200 dollars on a character concept.
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Timon-Berkowitz Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2014
I think you have put it very precisely, if not inhumanely.  The artists should take heed of your direct words and maybe admit something to themselves (theyre fking con artists).   I though feel very sorry for those unfortunates who get bilked out like that.
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equinepalette Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Furthermore, to answer your question "can people not generate their own character" simply: No. Some people can't. Some people aren't good at creating characters from scratch, whether they can draw or not. A great still life artist can look and a mountainous scene and reproduce it exactly on a canvas, and it's absolutely incredible. But ask them to put a fantasy character in front of it, and they can't. They'll come up with some abomination that violates every color theory known to man, and has the anatomy of a two-year-old's drawing! Perhaps adoptable artists are exploiting that inability to an extent, but (as a personal example), I never asked someone to bid $500 on an adopt of mine. The auction started at $0.25/25:points:. It's not right to blame the artist for the "exorbitant" price of the adopt when they never asked for that much in the first place.

Either way, I hope my answer helped you a bit!
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Riku-of-Darkness Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
That's me!! *flails about*
I think I'm decent enough at writing stories but ask me to character design (especially with colour palettes?? BAHAHAHA!!)

There is a reason I have a call list of artists to help design my characters from scratch. :3
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equinepalette Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Every artist has their specialty! I'm not saying every artist can't design a good character, but it is just very difficult for some, even though they may excel in other areas!
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Riku-of-Darkness Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Yep! We all have our strengths and weaknesses. ^__^
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Timon-Berkowitz Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014
Well one cannot initially claim that the artist is at fault for an exhorbinant price, but when they witness rather young people spending incredable sums of money ofr the permission to use a digital character, then would not they have the sense to think that this has gone to far?  If I was the artist and a bidder was paying up to 70$ or more for such a 'comodity' then I would feel its only right to take such a designed character and produce it onto paper in traditional medium and send it to the winner.  THAT would be the right thing to do I feel.

Second, to put down a person's own crude fantasy char created from scratch as being some abomination, no matter how meager the drawing skill, I think is just awful.  Everyone has to start out somewhere as an artist and character creator, and those early days are rapt with the agony and self doubt of a struggling beginner who can only do simple copies or shaky squiggles.  I cannot tell you the ammount of times ive seem some young artist beat themselves up over how amateur their little drawing of a barely original Pikachu fan character is.  The last thing they need is to hear an artist talk about how poorly drawn or unimaginative all these fan chars are.
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xXSynnXx Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
The first point you try to make...is the same as someone spending they're parents, or their own hard earned money on virtual currency in video games, or DLC for video games... =3=  Please think before you speak about digital artist. I myself have started to transition into the "digital mainstream" simply because of that. Digital art has become more mainstream and "acceptable" compared to the traditional medium I and so many other's use on a daily basis.  Some make a living off of drawing art digitally, and if I were one of them, I'd feel deeply offended by your first comment.
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Timon-Berkowitz Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2014
Ive not played a video game where ive spent my money to buy 'added features' or anything like that.  I do have respect for digital  artist, but this particular situation seems different due to the subject and the target audience.

There is a profound sociological question as stake here, and that is how much of our human experience do we want to tie into the digital internet world and how much do we want to place in real world experiences.  Ive often wondered listening to very big Steve Jobs and Google fans talk about the (apparently) wonderful future.  Could it be that we are headed to a human life experience where we must be connected with this network at all times, not simply in a technical matter, but in an emotional psychological manner.  FOr years I avoided getting a mobile device and used school computers occasionally for internet.  Most of this was due to the fact I had very little income.  I could not imagine the idea that this little mobile device could be such a security and emotional necessity to people.  Then my parents got me one.  And now ive found ive ended up in that same situation where I was once an outsider.  I must always have the iphone with me.

I go on nature hikes all the time and intake the beauty of the natural world.  Recently ive noticed that when I am set upon by a sudden moment of visual beauty in nature, rather than just observe, I have to take out the phone and take pictures.  By the time the pics are done, the moment is gone.  Ive realized then that though I captured the scene, I have missed the presence of the actual experience for I was concentrating on taking pictures.  After thinking about this it chills me to realize how this new technology has intervened in my real world experience.

So it leads me to ask, which is more valuable?  The digital or the physical.  The static replay or the brief living moment?  So thats why this situation here seems so lecherous to me, because people are physically paying their essential currency in this human society for something which is so static and unchanging and ephemeral.  A one single jpeg image of a character they cannot ever hope to draw themselves and can only look upon as theirs.....  whereas, I could easily download the image and draw the same character on paper to my heart's content without any care of 'ownership' and make it mine for myself.  God forbid that someone should do that and then post their drawings of that char on the internet!  Then what will the owner be able to do about it??  Sue them?  But they are not making a profit off their shameless copy.  All they can do is just call the person an art theif and continue to assert their ownership to one digital image they paid for 'owenrship' to and could never hope to reproduce themselves while that shameless copier does what they want.  Such a sad scenario.

What I would tell the buyers of these 'rights' to do is to create their own creations, even if they are crude or bad copies of other chars.  They make the character their own by right of imagination, not by the legal monetary right to a series of ghostly codes.
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xXSynnXx Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I understand you're points. Very valid and have very good facts. But the "Digital Age" is here and now. Families are being made and couples are found with their spouses/partners around the world. I for one have had the greatest relationships with long distance relationships with women from a different state than my own.  It is your personal reasoning to not want to have any part in it.  (and in my own personal opinion, it's your parent's fault for getting you a crappy iphone instead of an android, but that's a totally different debate.)

I would love for you to have this same conversation with those who create digital music, or video games, or like I said, use the digital medium of art to survive and support their family.

I think what you're failing to understand is the words, "inspiration and aspiration"... To inspire oneself to create art, and to aspire to be able to create art in a similar way to another.

This is called motivational drive.  And, what I live by every time I pick up my pencil and paper, or my tablet and stylus.  I look to my imagination for creativity and inspiration from there, or even other people's works. And I aspire to be like those artists I idolize and hope to one day make artwork like them. And be known for more than just my name, but known for my works and what marks I can make in other's lives to one day let them achieve the same goal.

What you're doing yourself, is putting down the people who you are saying "create their own creations, even if they are crude or bad copies of other chars." Who are you to judge someone else's work on "crude or bad copies"?!  Do you think you're some "art god" and a "perfect artist"?  No. Because guess what. NEITHER EXIST!  There is NO PERFECTION! NO WHERE IN EXISTENCE! We might say something is "perfect", but "perfection" is merely a mortal's opinion on what they see as "perfection".  Get off your high horse and roll around in the dirt. Because I seriously believe someone threw you on the back of the horse and you've been facing the wrong direction the whole time and only see the horse's behind when it trots.

Learn to respect others for their hobbies and passions, and maybe people will come to respect you for more than just "textbook responses".
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Emberguard Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014   General Artist
Adoptables are basically DAs community version of what happens in the real world when businesses hire artists to design characters. Copyright to anything can bring the price up by an additional 150%-200%. If a business bought a character design regardless of whether it was digital or traditional it could be anything from $800 to something in the thousands of dollars. Of course it'd be unrealistic to expect anyone on DA to spend anywhere near that much, especially as most if not all of the people on here aren't looking to make money from the characters. But in the end copyright to anything does have value, and that's what the people here are bidding on regardless of what the character will later be used for. 

  but when they witness rather young people spending incredible sums of money for the permission to use a digital character, then would not they have the sense to think that this has gone to far?

 Yes and no. In the end this being the internet people could be any age at all and we wouldn't really know whether they're being truthful about their age or not and certainly we have no way of knowing how much money they have to their name available to spend. 

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Timon-Berkowitz Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014
The buyer may have copyright to the char, but then what?  all they have afterwards is a digital image on DA that never moves or changes and could even be deleted after the fact.  Its not the art they are paying for but the 'rights' to the character.  But if they are not good artists, then they themselves cannot even reproduce the same char.  And then yet again they will only have to rely on paying someone else to create a new situation for said character.  The least they could do is send them a physical drawing, a physical creation that craft went into of which they can hold, but they dont even get that.

Like I said earlier, it's as if someone with no artistic skill is being given a toll to the access of their own imagination.

Reminds me a lot of disney and how they have turned people's whimsical imagination into a vampyric lucrative business.
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Emberguard Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014   General Artist
Like I said earlier, it's as if someone with no artistic skill is being given a toll to the access of their own imagination.

 Not to their own, but to another persons'.


 all they have afterwards is a digital image on DA that never moves or changes and could even be deleted after the fact

That sounds no different from if someone commissioned a digital image, they'd still need to download it and they can always request access to the full image if there's a bigger one available.


The least they could do is send them a physical drawing, a physical creation that craft went into of which they can hold, but they dont even get that.

 Why? They're bidding for what is in front of them. The artist has no obligation to give them more then what they're paying for. 
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KUVlRA Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Well their are other uses like writing, role playing, even pixelizing into some form of game or getting a plushie or craft made. When you have a character one does not need to draw them to capture them entirely, and for a digital drawing all you would need to do is print it off. Some people draw better digitally than traditional, and it would not be deleted it you be smart and save all of ones commissions or bought designs. You could get them blown up and hung on your wall I you wanted.

It's not a toll to access their own imagination, everyone can make something of their own and sometimes you can see potential in another design. The perfect story or name, or if only this detail was changed ever so slightly or majorly they would be perfect.

It's not just buying a digital drawing its buying an idea that can have hundred of outcomes.

And Disney is Disney, it has nothing to do with paying for a design.  
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equinepalette Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
To the first point, some people do! Many artists offer more gifts the higher it goes. I did an auction for charity and offered a plush if the bid got over $100 (which two of them did)! It's all dependent on the artist.

For the second, I was just giving an example of someone who might be they type of person to buy an adopt. Not putting down anyone in particular. But, to further the point, yes--everyone has to start somewhere. But, you're lying to yourself if you think everyone can be artistic in character creation. Some people can never master color theory and therefore can never create a "great" character. Some people can draw what's in front of their eyes, but can't seem to draw what's in their head. Many artists working in artisan craft areas (such as pottery, textiles, and papercraft) are adept in their fields, but would never be able to achieve character creation in the 2D world like some of the pros (like Kawiku here). Practicing makes progress, but not everyone can do every type of art. That individual who starts with tracing bases, and then works their way up to their own style SHOULD be encouraged. They should never be told to "give up." They work hard to become "talented." But, you have to be honest and realize that they might never be "gifted." They might want something truly spectacular that they can't create themselves. THAT's all I was saying with that point.

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Timon-Berkowitz Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014
See I outright disagree.  I believe anyone can become a creative generator, its lack of external support and self doubt that keeps them from doing so.  If you say some people cannot be good artists, you might as well say some people can only be unintelligent or boring, or perverts.  When really development and situation can have a hell of a lot to do with it...   besides, Ive been to art school, and I dropped out of it.  Artists suck.  The art world is a fucking sham.  In relaity there is no liberty in the concept of higher art in any form because you cannot paint what you really want to in reality.  You HAVE to be able to compete with the general consensus on what defines 'quality' art at that time period else you are deemed as 'not a REAL artists'.  And this applies not just to the world of fine art but most art communities today.

To me the squiggly, quirky, juvenile creations of average people with little 'quality art skill' are far more exciting and charming than the eye-popping masterful character art of big name artists.

And I REALLY think that you should send your auction winners physical drawings.  Else youre asking people to forego their own (or quite possibly their parents') own monetary lifeblood for something totally ephemeral.  Ive seen artists doodle these chars up and give them away for free.  I remember being 12 with my sibling and 'claiming' the 'permission' to use a cartoon character in our playtime and then bartering toys between each other for the 'right' to use said character.  That was totally silly, but now I cannot escape what I see here as the same situation only the fact is money is changing hands in this case.  Youre essentially helping people suffer a situation where they require a monetary toll for their own imagination.
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equinepalette Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
To each their own, I suppose. I agree that everyone can become creative, to an extent, but not that everyone can achieve the same levels of "greatness." Nature vs. nurture DOES have a lot to do with it, but those with a "gift" or "raw talent" can exceed further than those without such. If everyone could be an "artist" (of whatever quality or value), then the talent of "art" would be worthless, and artists should all consider themselves shams, and that's simply not true. Artists get paid what they do because they have a rare talent, indeed. It's the same reason we pay anyone in any job--because not everyone can do it to the standard that we deem as "quality." To go with an artsy example, Chopin at a young age could sit down and play a symphony because he had a musical gift. At a young age, I was plucking on the keyboard. Today, I could never compose a brilliant piece like one of the greats because I don't have the talent for it. Just like some people could never create a character to the level of a great artist because they don't have that original talent. They could try, and achieve a certain level of quality, but it wouldn't be as high of a quality as a great character artist. 

And, on the subject of "quality," it IS frustrating in the art world today because many people in art circles use the words "quality" and "value" interchangeably, when they are absolutely not. A two year old's drawing of herself holding Mommy's hand is terrible quality. No one can deny that. But, it will make Mommy cry, meaning that, to her, it has great value. Those squiggly, quirky creation hold great value to you, which is wonderful. It's nice to see someone other than the creator of the piece understand it's value. Thank you for that. But no manner of valuing a piece will make it's saturated colors NOT clash, and fix it's incorrect proportions and anatomy.

All I'm saying is that some people want a character of "quality" to call their own, when they could never achieve that quality by themselves, no matter how hard they may work. You obviously would rather have one of "value," and that's fine as well. You also place a lot of monetary value on the physical arts, which is understandable. But, many people place monetary value on ideas and concepts, as well as things that only exist in the digital realm. Question: Do you think it's unacceptable to pay for digital works? Or writing for that matter? Both of those lack physical forms, but take time and effort in their creation, the same way traditional (physical) works do. People SHOULD pay for designs, but perhaps not as much as some people pay for adoptables. However, the price hike is due to how much individual value someone places on a piece. If they didn't want to pay it, they wouldn't.

I hope I'm not angering you or such things. I'm truly enjoying this conversation! I like hearing the other side of the fence for a change. I can leave you be at any point, if you'd like.
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equinepalette Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh! You don't understand adoptables in general! Yeah, I never understood them myself when I first learned about them. But, after some education, I realized that the "rights" to anything have some value. Kind of like how Disney bought the rights to the characters Darth Vader, Princess Leia, Luke Skywalker, etc. They OWN them now. People buy adopts generally because they like the character and want to do something with them; like write a story, draw some art, or just to have something beautiful/fun/artistic that's THEIRS. If you just like it and redraw it, it's not YOURS, it's fan art. If you claim it as yours, it's art theft.

If you're the type of person that's still like, "That's still stupid, no matter what." (Which is fine, everyone has their opinions!) Then you just have to stick by that and chalk it up to the old saying "A fool and his money are soon parted!"


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