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Troll pollution?

Journal Entry: Sun Jul 20, 2014, 11:18 AM


What's up with all the troll accounts of really bad taste lately?

I wish dA would simply ban these people, when they are polluting this site on purpose and act like total jerks screaming for attention? (I mean, it's not even funny at all.) There are these people I have to keep reporting, since they upload commissioned works and my clients are really unhappy about it. Once it gets taken down, I have to report it AGAIN AND AGAIN since it get reposted again!? I have MUCH better things to do than deal with kids like this.

And they accuse the real artists to steal from them when the trust is so obvious? What kind of trolling is that, are they even trying?

And the death threat jokes...

This have gone way too far beyond stupidity x__x

I'm not sure if people realise they can get in LEGIT trouble for doing things like this? (but they are probably too young and ignorant to care) are they really that desperate and have nothing better and productive to do? That's really... sad.

Now it's just extremely annoying and polluting this site...

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Shar-zul Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Just ignore the damn trolls. It's better to let them starve of your anger, than to feed them.
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nightfury150 Featured By Owner Edited Jul 31, 2014
Yep, yep. I think they're all imbeciles, because it's a waste of everyone else's time and attention. I know someone who used to dedicate about fifteen minutes to two hours to rooting the people out, but I think he didn't get very many people, so he gave up. :(

But he had a really nice dedication to the job!
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MewTheLegend Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2014  Student General Artist
MlpF***ingsucks without those stars, sorry I prefer to have clean language.. Anyways MlpF***ingsucks is a troll and their he scribbles sloppily on power puff girl pics and says These are mine steal and I report you. Then just harasses mlp fans. He called  "gay" and dA has done NOTHING about it
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MewTheLegend Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2014  Student General Artist
I want apply for  (somehow) that way there is a admin that will do something a lot of you would be great admins 0,0
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SweetieCandyHeart Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2014  Student Interface Designer
What type of Trolls?
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EdanaRose Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2014  Student General Artist
Admins on this site aren't that helpful, in my experience. They literally told me to simply "block them". As if that would stop the harassment? 
I love dA, don't get me wrong! But, the admins here are just so terrible, imo. At least the admins I've come in contact with. I'm sure there's the occasional admin that actually takes care of shit, but yeah. 
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AskDaHomestuckMLPs Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Student General Artist
Same with me, they need to get some better admins
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EdanaRose Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2014  Student General Artist
Yeah, I'm not sure how one accomplishes that, tho? 
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AskDaHomestuckMLPs Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2014  Student General Artist
I dunno... *shrugs*
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nerptune Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
there's never an occasional good admin

we need better admins IMO
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EdanaRose Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Student General Artist
Omg, really? Jesus. 
Wow, we really do need better admins. 
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nerptune Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
we AT LEAST need admins who ACTUALLY do things. I saw some pr0n on here once (person was already banned) and in the area where you report the deviations, there were 1 or more reports under "needed mature tag", and it said that an admin saw the problems and closed the case without doing anything.

so yeah
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EdanaRose Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Student General Artist
I have my own personal views on what/who admins should be and most admins don't fit it except a choice few I know. This goes for admins of anything. Servers, websites, etc. 
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nerptune Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
do you know any good admins on here? :O

i didn't know this site had good admins 
 

kidding XD

we just don't have enough of them I guess 
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EdanaRose Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Student General Artist
Not here! lmao!! 
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Coonpelt Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2014  Student General Artist
Do you consider the fact that admins are people too, how would you feel if you had to CONSTANTLY solve every single case every 2-5 seconds, and deal with all the nasty comments that some people post, then search endlessly for any deviant who broke the terms of agreement, I mean.. do you ever consider fact that they have to do all that shit everyday? Yeah, there might be a lazy admin, but they all have to put up with this shit everyday 24/7. Please think about what you're about to post next time you want to complain about somebody.
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nerptune Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
XD
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HeadSmashScrafty Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree, I'd very much like dA to do something permanent about it. It's just vile.
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SilverWindStar Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've actually been wanting to write a journal similar to this but I didn't feel it would get far since I have few watchers. I feel like the only way things will change is if the staff of DA were replaced or the policy of DA to be changed...or both. Maybe if those of us that are tired of t (and I know a lot of us are) all stood up and made some sort of petition, things would turn around for the better.

If anything, its a start, and everything has to start somewhere. 
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Pokemon-fox Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014  Student General Artist
I guess they are really bored to send a really good artist death threats and what you said up on the journal :/ I never dealt with a troll before but I can totally agree with you about this situation with them
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DeviantDreams Featured By Owner Edited Jul 22, 2014   Photographer
I've been telling dA to do something about this for almost 8 years now... kinda like how they need some quality control on their DD's. dA's only response to any of this has been "we aren't 'rewarding' anyone; there isn't a problem."

So long as people can keep making absolute crap or stealing other people's work and getting rewarded for it, and dA keeps making money from it, nothing will change.
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PyroWolf57 Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014
Agree'd
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FirePrincessAndrea Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
totally true, I'm kinda sick of chain mails to...
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Xtothestreme Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014
.. O wooooooooow
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yashu204 Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree, those who copy, steal, and make troll posts/deviatations should be banned. T
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FiraStarfire Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I 100% agree with you OMG...
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WlTCHY Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
,,,,Neon--BOOM and her 'sisters' are she,she steals art and claim as she art and you stole the oc, and you do art trades or you asked from a comission submit you art
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Xtothestreme Featured By Owner Edited Jul 22, 2014
The people who link themselves in an unrelated signiture or comment is just begging for pageviews are annoying enough


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pickle962 Featured By Owner Edited Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Using another artists work as a REFERENCE when coming up with your art is one thing, claiming its yours when the truth is so obvious? That's just low!

pickle962.deviantart.com/
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Kitsune0Jester Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Student Digital Artist
The fake plz accounts and death threats from chain mail are already bad enough.
Yeah, it's a shame when they have nothing better to do than to steal artists' works and claim it as their own. Really, people, lighten up! The true definition of an artist doesn't come from get-rich-quick schemes.
Wonder what the staff is doing right now...?
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LadyRans Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The joys of being popular.
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MasterRK9 Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
What frustrates me is the chainmail and fake plz accts...
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212b Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It makes me pity them that they really have nothing better to do.
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Pluvian Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm afraid your definition of trolling appears to be misconstrued. Trolling is when people attempt to annoy you to get some sort of reaction out of you, sometimes to the point if harassment.

Art theft is not necessarily trolling the original creator of the art, and it can have a number of motives behind it. Trolls wouldn't bother with that when they can just comment something on your profile and deviations or just stalk you on the Forums instead.

As far as general art theft goes, yes, that should stop. It's also illegal. deviantART should alter its coding so that when artists specify that they are not providing a download for that particular deviation, it cannot be downloaded at all – like how Neopets has implemented in its Beauty Contest area of the site. (Or at least, it did. I haven't used it in two years, therefore I don't know if the Beauty Contest still exists.)
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Seven-Fates Featured By Owner Edited Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
deviantART should alter its coding so that when artists specify that they are not providing a download for that particular deviation, it cannot be downloaded at all – like how Neopets has implemented in its Beauty Contest area of the site.


Unfortunately, the only way this will ever truly happen is if they stop transmitting the image when the page loads [edit: to clarify, the image never loads], or use some unnecessary resource hogging flash-based GUI to display everything. Even with the flash-method, I'm pretty sure the imagedata still gets cached on your system while you view it. It might take time, but anybody really dedicated to the thievery is going to find a way. Print Screen is also another method that completely falls out of the artist's control. Short of installing malware on every user's computer, deviantART can do nothing to prevent you from taking screengrabs and piecing a high res image back together bit by bit.
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Pluvian Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Okay, thank you for the information. It was just a mere idea I have thought of when I was reading the original journal, I wasn't thinking about it that seriously. I was just trying to think of a way to reduce or stop art theft altogether, but apparently that option is completely impossible. Well, the more you know – I won't approach the subject so naïvely/overly optimistic next time.
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Kawiku Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014
I'm afraid you misunderstood, I never said they are the same, I'm talking about trolls uploading things they don't own with the purpose to upset/makes people angry.

I personally would not like something like this to be implanted xD I like to save drawings I like in a folder so I can always enjoy looking at them (since some artists often delete their works later). And thieves could still screen cap it if they really wanted to.
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Pluvian Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, the way you wrote it was terribly confusing. From how I and others read it, it was worded as if you thought that was the only definition for "trolling". I'm not the only person that "misunderstood".

We can agree to disagree – if an HTML/CSS code exists where the option to right click anything on that particular page is disabled, who is to say this option doesn't exist for the PRNTSCR button?
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Seven-Fates Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
It's an OS-Based function, not hardware. As mentioned in my other post, the only way to disable Print Screen is through the use of some highly [illegal] intrusive software.
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barish-ki-boond Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This. I wish there was a way to up vote this comment. The journal poster's definition of a troll is rather misleading.
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Sascha90 Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I haven't had any experiences with trolls personally, but I have observed their work. Those people are real pieces of work...
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DestinyDecade Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It is. I wish dA can do something about it.
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Russia-Love Featured By Owner Edited Jul 21, 2014
uhhh sorry but Art theft =/= trolling :/ 





trolling: 
make a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.
"if people are obviously trolling then I'll delete your posts and do my best to ban you"



art theft: 
The act of claiming that you created a work of art so that you can get in on a small share of the praise and attention that is lavished on the best artists, without actually having to have any artistic skill whatsoever. 


There CAN be troll art thefts but both are defiantly  Not the same..
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Kawiku Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014
I'm talking about trolls uploading things they don't own with the purpose to upset/makes people angry, not art thieving from people looking for praise/good attention. I never said both are the same thing.
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Russia-Love Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014
the way you wrote it was confusing :V 
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Silver-Glazed-Donut Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Humanity is doomed to be overrun by trolls with low IQ.

Farewell, dear friends... For the era of geniuses has long passed.
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canttel Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Its not trolling.
this is wrose than trolling.
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Kochidai Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014
art thievery is not the same as trolling
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Kawiku Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014
It's not, but someone can be a troll and upload things they don't own to upset people. This is the kind of persons I'm talking about in this journal.
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